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1. Headless install on Pi3. (neuman)
2. Re: Headless install on Pi3. (Freenet)
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:55:45 -0500
From: neuman <***@gmail.com>
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Subject: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the
wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how
to access the web console from my main computer.
Im following the directions here:
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan
I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the
directions and a few other pages I've found on google.
fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
In my wrapper.log I found the two following errors:
Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888
Could not bind to some of the interfaces specified for port 8888 :
[192.168.1.101]
Any suggestions?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:24:00 +0000
From: Freenet <***@nullvoid.me>
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Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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Change the fproxy.bindTo= to 192.168.1.130 instead of 192.168.1.101
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:50:37 +0000
From: Stephen Mollett <***@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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Hi,
192.168.1.101. That line governs what addresses the proxy accepts
connections through; the others govern where the connections can come
from (so they're correct in listing your main computer's address).
Hope this helps,
Stephen
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:20:51 +0000
From: Steve Dougherty <***@asksteved.com>
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The Tor comparison is easiest to answer because there's a FAQ entry:
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#tor
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3. Re: Headless install on Pi3. (Stephen Mollett)
4. Re: Newbie questions (Steve Dougherty)
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:55:45 -0500
From: neuman <***@gmail.com>
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Subject: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the
wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how
to access the web console from my main computer.
Im following the directions here:
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan
I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the
directions and a few other pages I've found on google.
fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
In my wrapper.log I found the two following errors:
Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888
Could not bind to some of the interfaces specified for port 8888 :
[192.168.1.101]
Any suggestions?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:24:00 +0000
From: Freenet <***@nullvoid.me>
To: ***@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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Change the fproxy.bindTo= to 192.168.1.130 instead of 192.168.1.101
I installed freenet on a raspberry pi3 and for all I can see in the
wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how
to access the web console from my main computer.
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan
I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the
directions and a few other pages I've found on google.
fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888
[192.168.1.101]
Any suggestions?
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------------------------------wrapper its working fine, but I can't seem to be able to figure out how
to access the web console from my main computer.
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#fproxy-lan
I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini based on the
directions and a few other pages I've found on google.
fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
Unable to bind to address 192.168.1.101 for port 8888
[192.168.1.101]
Any suggestions?
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:50:37 +0000
From: Stephen Mollett <***@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Headless install on Pi3.
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Hi,
I've modified the following lines in my freenet.ini ...
fproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
You need to put 192.168.1.130 in the fproxy.bindTo line instead offproxy.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.101,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1
pi3 address is 192.168.1.130 and my main computer is 192.168.1.101
192.168.1.101. That line governs what addresses the proxy accepts
connections through; the others govern where the connections can come
from (so they're correct in listing your main computer's address).
Hope this helps,
Stephen
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:20:51 +0000
From: Steve Dougherty <***@asksteved.com>
To: ***@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Newbie questions
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The Tor comparison is easiest to answer because there's a FAQ entry:
https://freenetproject.org/help.html#tor
Hello!
How do nodes discover each other?
In opennet mode ("normal" or "low" network security) they connect to
seed nodes (a list of which is included with the software) run by
volunteers which provide them with an initial set of possible
connections, and during normal operation performs path folding to
maintain and improve its connections. [0]
When not in opennet mode (and therefore in "darknet mode;" if both modes
are in use it's "hybrid") connections must be manually and mutually added.
Can nodes within a LAN connect to each other without any special
configuration?
It depends on what you mean by special configuration. It does require
that the nodes' operators add one another as "friends" by trading node
references, but this is intended as routine configuration.
Do they need Internet access?
No, but note that a completely isolated darknet would have no way to
access the content available through the public opennet network. This
includes updates to the software. As long as one member of the darknet
is also connected to opennet this will not be the case. (Though
performance will be slow.)
Would nodes keep automatically connecting when they are in a LAN where
some days there is no Internet access?
Yes.
Does Freenet have any kind of real asynchronous messaging?
Yes, and it depends what you mean.
Alice is online and sends a message which has Caroline (her Freenet
friend) as the recipient, but Caroline is offline. Fortunately Barbara (who
is a common Freenet friend of both Alice and Caroline) is online. Then
Alice goes offline. Then Caroline goes online and receives Alice's message.
Barbara (or other common online Freenet friend) automatically forwarded the
message without being able to read it.
If so, how does it work?
Darknet peers can send direct messages by clicking on the peer's name on
the friends page. If the peers are not both online and connected the
message will be deferred until they are. The user interface for this is
very poor but it does function.
Otherwise, messaging tools like FLIP, Freemail, or Sone can do that.
[1][2][3] They work by inserting and fetching the messages as files.
I guess some of those three messaging tools do somehow the kind of
asynchronous messaging I meant. Do they?
Thank you!!
Yep. :) Hope this helps.
- Steve
It does! Great explanations! As soon as I have a while I will try Freenet.
In the case you, or anyone in this list, know a bit about other
more-or-less similar decentralized tools like Retroshare, Zeronet, Tox,
IPFS, etc, could you very briefly compare them to Freenet and easily say
some advantage or disadvantage of some of those tools over Freenet?
Thanks again.
[0] https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Opennet
[1]
[2] http://freesocial.draketo.de/freemail_en.html
[3]
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-------------- next part --------------How do nodes discover each other?
In opennet mode ("normal" or "low" network security) they connect to
seed nodes (a list of which is included with the software) run by
volunteers which provide them with an initial set of possible
connections, and during normal operation performs path folding to
maintain and improve its connections. [0]
When not in opennet mode (and therefore in "darknet mode;" if both modes
are in use it's "hybrid") connections must be manually and mutually added.
Can nodes within a LAN connect to each other without any special
configuration?
It depends on what you mean by special configuration. It does require
that the nodes' operators add one another as "friends" by trading node
references, but this is intended as routine configuration.
Do they need Internet access?
No, but note that a completely isolated darknet would have no way to
access the content available through the public opennet network. This
includes updates to the software. As long as one member of the darknet
is also connected to opennet this will not be the case. (Though
performance will be slow.)
Would nodes keep automatically connecting when they are in a LAN where
some days there is no Internet access?
Yes.
Does Freenet have any kind of real asynchronous messaging?
Yes, and it depends what you mean.
Alice is online and sends a message which has Caroline (her Freenet
friend) as the recipient, but Caroline is offline. Fortunately Barbara (who
is a common Freenet friend of both Alice and Caroline) is online. Then
Alice goes offline. Then Caroline goes online and receives Alice's message.
Barbara (or other common online Freenet friend) automatically forwarded the
message without being able to read it.
If so, how does it work?
Darknet peers can send direct messages by clicking on the peer's name on
the friends page. If the peers are not both online and connected the
message will be deferred until they are. The user interface for this is
very poor but it does function.
Otherwise, messaging tools like FLIP, Freemail, or Sone can do that.
[1][2][3] They work by inserting and fetching the messages as files.
I guess some of those three messaging tools do somehow the kind of
asynchronous messaging I meant. Do they?
Thank you!!
Yep. :) Hope this helps.
- Steve
It does! Great explanations! As soon as I have a while I will try Freenet.
In the case you, or anyone in this list, know a bit about other
more-or-less similar decentralized tools like Retroshare, Zeronet, Tox,
IPFS, etc, could you very briefly compare them to Freenet and easily say
some advantage or disadvantage of some of those tools over Freenet?
Thanks again.
[0] https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Opennet
[1]
[2] http://freesocial.draketo.de/freemail_en.html
[3]
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